Michael Anderson and Vance Spencer, co-founders of Framework Ventures, discuss how Framework Ventures is a venture capital firm through and through—however, the company is unique in that it employs a software development department to assist their investees in growing, particularly with tokenization. Spencer believes tokenization has the potential to produce robust network effects, underestimated by traditional applications of Metcalfe's Law. Anderson and Spencer discuss topics including their transition from traditional tech into crypto and the revolutionary implications of protocols like "Automated Market Makers". Interviewed by Ash Bennington on July 21, 2021.