The separation of church and state was a revolutionary idea—Erik Voorhees, CEO of ShapeShift, and Eric Kryski, CEO and co-founder of Bidali, discuss whether it’s now time to separate money from state as well. Voorhees and Kryski discuss the origins of and new developments taking place at ShapeShift. Criticizing the infrastructure we have around our traditional human resources departments and arguing that they impoverish many of the people they advocate for, Voorhees makes the case for decentralization in many facets of life and the economy. He then applies this principle to money itself—in order to achieve a truly just society, a small, centralized group ought not possess a monopoly on currency. Filmed on July 15, 2021.