Dan Tapiero, founder and managing partner of 10T Holdings, joins Raoul Pal, CEO and co-founder of Real Vision, to discuss some of the crypto investment sectors he is interested in, including blockchain infrastructure, on-ramps, and next generation financial services. Taperio explains his approach to investing in the space and why he is looking to invest in what he considers to be mid-sized, crypto companies worth over 400 million dollars. He explores the benefits of investing into crypto on-ramps such as crypto exchanges and lending and borrowing, pointing out that even when crypto prices are going down, on-ramp type investments still perform. Tapiero believes that investing in blockchain infrastructure, such as bridges from traditional finance to crypto, is a way to get upside exposure to the asset class without necessarily needing to purchase the crypto assets themselves. Filmed on February 17, 2021. Key Learnings: There are many different ways to approach investing in the crypto space. Tapiero takes the traditional investor approach, primarily investing in businesses rather than holding the crypto assets themselves, and he describes his approach as a "picks and shovels" style investment strategy. This enables the investor to benefit from exposure to the asset class while also reducing the downside risk that comes with holding the tokens themselves.