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ggWith the euro inflation prediction by Julian, I thought when it would be a good idea to allocate into gold. More reasons than one pointed out, excellent piece!
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SBGold has not really performed as well as you would expect considering the recent dollar weakness. Is there a specific explanation for this. Also, Bitcoin seems to be in the spotlight and gold is seen as an illiquid and outdated relic. This might change when/if the parabolic Bitcoin rise comes to an end, but when?
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NHin the last macro insiders it sounded like you were prepared for the u.s. dollar to breakout to the upside, which might not be good for gold. can you explain how gold will rise if the dollar rises as well.
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RMTimely piece and I appreciate the commentary with price points. Like some of the other comments, I am puzzzled at why gold hasn't done better. Geopolitical risks are very high. Thoughts as to why gold has lagged lately? Thanks , realky enjoying this service. Please also look at the recent appearance of a breakout in China in future pieces.
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JBJulian - Great article again. The connection to your previous notes and gold is very clear. Regarding the miners, do you think they would benefit from an overall correction, if it were to happen? Other words - Does anything specific cause you to be bullish on miners in a sea of overvalued equities? I can also see a year long descending triangle in the making. Best, Jason
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LNGold appears to be very correlated to the yen. To me that means that it is simply a fear asset.
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EOThe long dollar, long gold trade idea appears to be taking shape and this might be a good entry point for both, given the recent discussions on insider talks. If it fails we should know pretty soon..
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SVVery timely, thank you! I too have been watching this trade, but I'm somewhat concerned if the US Dollar rallies that gold (and the miners) will drop. I'm waiting for a breakout before jumping in.
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THI wish the charts looked better. Gold as a trade has been very profitable since 12/15, not so much as an investment. The rise since 8/9 is due to Korea. I do not like to trade politics.
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SBI think Gold needs more fear of monetary debasement to increase in value. That fear is a bit low at the moment. Inflationary fear will eventually increase with the return of a form of QE after inevitable problems in the overvalued equity market. I believe Geopolitical tensions must be more concrete, instead of being misused to explain a normal market correction in the current equity Bull market. Also, Julian, you argued for higher rates due to inflationary pressures. How does that impact the gold price?
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GMThis is a good informational piece but it does not give any trade recommendations (that surprised me). Both Julien and Raoul are experienced traders and I was hoping for some guidance on how to specifically set up a trade. There are a number of ways to play this idea but I'm sure that some are better than others. For example, I might buy calls on GDX but I'm not certain how far our and what strike makes sense. Also, trade management of those calls is an issue. I could buy GLD on the break and then set a stop at some point below the breakout (again, some idea of what Julian is doing with this trade would be most helpful). In short, is there a recommendation (like Raoul's Eurodollar trade) or is this just an FYI peice for now?
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WEA fair, honest and I believe very accurate description of the situation. As always, many thanks Julian for your thoughts.
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CSThe crypto hype vis a vis gold being a relic reminds me of the view of the Australia economy (old economy) vis a vis the US during Tech Mania (new ecomony) 1999. I see the faultline Julian describes running throughout the currency complex. Borderline breakouts galore. Of course, his argument is for a relative outperformance of gold (sagging of correlations). He has warned about a pullback in risk assets; and the risk that bonds and equities go in the same direction. There's a lot of cash looking for a home. Though my instinct based on recent performamce would be for gold (lets not make bones about it, we're talking paper for the most part, not the metal, and they are antitheses) to pull back too, at least initially, unless this relex fails and this paper looking for a home/safe harbour finds it in gold this time. And if gold bucks the risk off reflex this time, it wouldnt take much for big money traders to pile in and cause a reflexive spike. What else has wallowed for 6 years?
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PGGeopolitical concerns and Gold: I have been watching the NK/US stand-off with interest (I have family and friends in Japan) and the China/India stand-off. What strikes me (much as the Raoul pack showing striking correlation with 2000) is similarities with the Sino-India War (circa 59-62) and the Cuban Missile Crisis (and fact that was just post Korean War). I am about to make some bold assertions - for thought and discussion - I wonder if China is manipulating NK to be the aggressor (would fit the above factual matrix). Does China need a war (not letting on to markets that has dire concerns for economy for example which might topple The Party?) See's US at a weak point and considers it the perfect time to take advantage on a geopolitical front (South Sea?) . Has at least tacit support from Russia? I don't know the answer but I have been thinking along the lines of the above. Interested to hear views
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JBGold Comments First of all, thank you all for your interesting and provocative comments. I have a handful of observations which I hope will clarify my angle on this subject without going into excessive detail. Firstly, I started off my career trading precious metals in the late 80’s for Philipp Brothers and while gold has a role in any portfolio, I have learnt over the years more than any other trading instrument it’s subject to emotion. For example, it is easy to wrap up precious metals in the current highly emotive discussion of the relative merits of crypto-currencies but it isn’t helpful when looking at the risk/reward of entering into a position. Hence, it is important to not approach logically as you would any other investment. What I am trying to get across here you can increase the odds of success if you can tick the following 3 boxes; 1. The macro backdrop is supportive 2. Flow of funds analysis suggests that the market isn’t already positions for the move and 3. The technical backdrop and charts look attractive. This was the approach we adopted in the Macro Insider piece and it is how we look at all trading opportunities. Therefore, while the current macro narrative for suddenly owning Gold (fear) is obviously heavily influenced by both North Korea and now Trump’s Charlottesville problems. The reality, we have been setting up for a catalytic event for 12 months already and the proximate cause is less relevant than recognising the technical picture with the tailwinds from the macro / geo-political and flow of funds backdrop we discussed. Regarding the exact trade setup, I am steering away from security specific recommendations because not all ideas suit all our readership. Thus, whether to use or not use options on ETFs needs to be a personal decision. At the time of writing the piece the set-up was close to breakout and gold’s nascent outperformance vs non-USD currencies was just that…nascent. A few days later, things are considerably more dynamic with gold bang on its major resistance vs USD, gold crosses performing and gold equity ratios also moving in favour of gold. In terms of GDX, if we break higher I have 2 targets in mind. The initial one is 31 but will likely prove hard to break. However, it is 30+% higher than here. So, it’s not a bad punt. My more optimistic target would be just below 38. Thus, position size and stop losses should be such that you can run with the break and create 4 or 5 to one pay-off given the speculative nature of this idea. There is of course a risk that mining equities fall with all equities but rotation should help mitigate too much of a wipe-out. This risk needs to be incorporated into your stop-loss thinking and trade size decisions. Similarly, physical Gold vs USD should have the energy to run about 10% or so if the scenario pans out after which we can review the trade from a position of strength.
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DGDid anyone notice $OEXA200R hit 65 on Friday? Could this be a trigger to rotate into cash / gold?
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BTGood piece Julian references to physical gold beg the question do you have a recommended source for purchase and storage of bullion? Thank you.
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RHGold up, eur/usd up, eur/gbp up, and oil rolling over. So that's the year's subscription paid for. Thanks chaps.
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ADJulian, I understand you don't like to make specific trade recommendations, but if you were to consider an option play, what time horizon would you focus on for the option expiration to maximize the anticipated move up in GDX? Thanks, Alex
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WDFriday's breakout looks promising - I am in ;-).