Pro Macro: In Focus – Acceleration?

Published on: October 12th, 2022

With promises of unfunded inflation protection schemes being announced almost daily, bonds yields have been on the rise. Sharply. As we move inexorably closer to a VaR shock, expect a rocky autumn to continue probing points of market pain, with the occasional accident exacerbating an already fragile market psyche.

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  • ly
    lena y.
    12 October 2022 @ 21:15
    I need help from my fellow macro members. This is the first time I buy this index put. I have made good money from the three trades by Julian, but I am more interested to learn how to facilitate the trades. Since the targets of the puts were reached, I sold all my puts already. Do I re-enter the trade at reasonable price since there is more drawdown in the market to come? How do I justify the reasonable price? Do I use sizing as my guide line?
    • AA
      Alberto A.
      14 October 2022 @ 02:34
      You call sell Call Spreads OTM aroung 30 delta for December expiration. The VIX is high so buying a put is very pricey. By selling the call spread you benefit from bearish view. The only thing is that your max profit is capped. Good luck!
    • ly
      lena y.
      13 October 2022 @ 18:59
      Thanks for the suggestions, Gentlemen. The spread trade is a good idea. I'll see how far this rally will go. What a volatile day Oct 13th! Someone makes big money today.
    • HM
      Harry M. | Real Vision
      13 October 2022 @ 14:52
      I would not reenter today. But I think JB remains longer term very bearish, and you might want to consider using big rallies to re-enter.
    • LM
      Lawrence M.
      13 October 2022 @ 04:26
      When vol spikes the price of the puts goes up, it gets expensive (so in regards to justifying the price... good luck, the options are pricey). If I were you I would be happy with the trade and catch things on the other side. Don't forget options expire, if there's a surprise rally you could lose a bit as volatility normalizes, so I would consider my entire option premium as risk if just buying a put. If losing it all bothers you its too much. If you know what a put spread is, and how to trade that, you can get skin in the game that way. It will offset some of the volatility premium and you can define your risk.
    • TH
      Taylor H.
      12 October 2022 @ 21:29
      For a deep dive into the questions you must ask yourself to run option portfolios take a look at some of the free pieces from QVR Advisors: https://www.qvradvisors.com/research
  • TH
    Taylor H.
    12 October 2022 @ 21:17
    I think there is a mistype. "As interest rates (and more importantly discount rates based on longer-dated corporate debt yields) rose, so the present value of the ultra-long dated liability streams of the corporate pension system went down... a LOT. The present value of the asset mix of bonds and equities went down LESS, despite the best efforts of actuaries to force pension trustees to invest in long-dated government debt at multi-century lows in yield." I think he means the asset mix went down more than the value of the liabilities. If assets fall less than liabilities that means your equity goes up...
    • HM
      Harry M. | Real Vision
      13 October 2022 @ 12:40
      And UK pension equity did go UP. Liabilities have been collapsing in value. The problem is much of this was hedged with swaps. So as the received swap positions lost money (lots of money) the fund needed to post margin. However the liability positions (the present value of what is owed to pensioners) went down, no margin was being paid to the pension fund. So a classic liquidity problem. The pension funds were getting terrible fills on their sales and bad ltvs on their posting of collateral. Without assistance they might have been unable to meet all the margin calls.
  • BW
    Bo W.
    13 October 2022 @ 08:03
    Is this possibly a typo? At the bottom of page 12, Julian wrote: Similarly, I want to wait for Fixed Income to turn before considering a long USD position. Doesn't he mean considering a SHORT USD position? Or am I misunderstanding big time? Thx!
    • HM
      Harry M. | Real Vision
      13 October 2022 @ 12:27
      Yes. A short USD position! Apologies!
    • MG
      Miguel G.
      13 October 2022 @ 10:13
      Lol I have same question some clarity please.
  • MG
    Miguel G.
    13 October 2022 @ 10:12
    Can i have some clarity on this point please. " Similarly, I want to wait for Fixed Income to turn before considering a long USD position." Is Julian saying he want to go long fixed income AND the dollar or is that a typo and he meant to say long fixed income short dollar?
    • MG
      Miguel G.
      13 October 2022 @ 13:08
      Thank you for that clarification, mostly in cash sitting and waiting. Julian has been an incredible asset to us during this bear market. Give him my best and my family and I thank him. Christmas isn't cancelled for us due to his brilliant maneuvering.
    • HM
      Harry M. | Real Vision
      13 October 2022 @ 12:43
      JB is waiting for fixed income to be less of a falling knife before catching it. The most recent inflation print is an excellent test of whether USD fixed income has found a floor (have rates peaked). Once US fixed income has stabilized, thats when we can think about SELLING the dollar. Not before. We appear to be in the middle of a global margin call. These things (JB usually refers to it as the "Napalm run") dont respect value. If it happens you need to hedge very tight and consider basis risks. Its a terribly destructive force. If thats whats happening, you need to think deeply about capital preservation.
  • HM
    Harry M. | Real Vision
    13 October 2022 @ 14:51
    A heads up note to people ahead of the Insider Talks tomorrow. Those of you who took JB's advice to buy puts, often seek follow up advice on what to do with the trades once they go in the money. Right now I think all the puts you have bought will have found they have hit their targets. I just asked JB to give an update on how people should trade it. He will give a more nuanced discussion tomorrow, but the basic message is broadly to follow the trading plan. Take profits where it has hit targets in the S&P. I think JB prefers to run the puts in Nasdaq where that suits your overall risk positions. He reminded me that folks should be thinking of their wider risk. A lot of have some real estate, some pension assets etc. These are probably getting hurt right now. Bear that in mind. Best wishes Harry
    • ly
      lena y.
      13 October 2022 @ 19:24
      Would like to hear Julian to discuss about the next big trade tomorrow!
  • ly
    lena y.
    14 October 2022 @ 02:09
    A tax question for US tax payers: when I roll an option trade is there any capital gain tax for the roll? Or is tax demanded only after the last roll trade is closed? Second why is capital gain in option only 40% short term and 60% long term gain?
    • HM
      Harry M. | Real Vision
      14 October 2022 @ 13:46
      Ah Lena, you should always get professional tax advice. The IRS are not gentle folk. I can give you my impression. Most brokers will give you a tax document which will reflect their understanding of your short and long term capital gains, interest and dividends. This includes most option brokers. Yes, if you made a short term capital gain on an option you will have incurred a liability, But you can net them against all your short/long term cap gains. Once again, I dont even play an accountant on TV. This comment is very much "for what little my understanding is worth".
  • SC
    Sanjeev C.
    14 October 2022 @ 18:38
    reposting my question here from last month, in case you missed it. thanks ----- Harry & Julian, It would be really useful if the trade recommendations include relative sizing. Like a percentage of capital committed to each position in a theoretical portfolio. This will convey conviction/risk sizing, and absolute impact on a given amount of investable capital. Thanks!
    • SC
      Sanjeev C.
      21 October 2022 @ 00:52
      Appreciate that response, Harry. My ask was if sizing information can be included in the reports along with position recommendations, which Julian and Raoul publish. Thanks
    • HM
      Harry M. | Real Vision
      20 October 2022 @ 16:18
      I think sizing deserves its own 45 min discussion. Its not a simple question. But my first observation is that always err on the side of too small rather than too large. Give possible scenarios real thought. Do you remember when oil prices traded negative? The settlement of an oil future ended up being -$37 and change! That happened because the world was out of storage. But its impact on many retail investors was profound. And they didnt participate in the subsequent rally cos in many cases there accounts were closed by the losses. I think about that a lot because I have dabbled in oil futures. It could have happened to me. So there is a really good reason why retail investors should only buy options, and never sell them. Yes, it will usually make it a bit harder to make money. But you will never find yourself losing more than the premium. As a jumping off point, I would suggest focusing on your worst case scenarios, and then sizing to a point where you are comfortable with that potential loss. Be super careful with "high conviction trades". Counter intuitively those are the trades that are most likely to hurt you. “It ain’t what you don’t know that gets you into trouble. It’s what you know for sure that just ain’t so. “ – Mark Twain
  • SC
    Sanjeev C.
    14 October 2022 @ 18:53
    I am not too experienced with bonds -- could you please recommend specific bond securities to trade, when its time? Thanks "Make sure you know how and where to buy bonds, either as cash holdings, futures, ETFs or whatever. Some might even consider annuities, although that would be a bold approach indeed."
  • SC
    Sanjeev C.
    14 October 2022 @ 19:06
    I like to think of myself as an experienced individual investor. Though at places, I found this article to be a bit too technical to understand. 1, example -- "In the period known as the Great Moderation (which followed Greenspan’s bailout of LTCM) bonds and stocks were negatively correlated as globalisation provided a deflationary tailwind for risk assets.". Another sentence on how deflation causes this negative correlation would help here. 2. I understood that Julian thinks that a shock is more likely now due to fragility, and hidden leverage. Though I didn't see a statement on why he expects bonds to go up in such a scenario? In general, I suggest these posts be written with a typical retail investor as audience. Thanks!
    • RR
      Raj R.
      13 November 2022 @ 05:10
      On the first one, globalization meant prices went down which is deflation. In deflation bond yields go down (as central banks keep interest rates low to fuel growth) which provides fuel to risk assets and they go up. This is the negative correlation Julian is talking about.
    • SC
      Sanjeev C.
      21 October 2022 @ 00:54
      @K K -- I am assuming you posted your comment in response to mine, by mistake.
    • KK
      K K.
      15 October 2022 @ 08:57
      no one knows whats going to happen. People always think in previous recessions and think things are obvious. Nothing is obvious. You'll see unlikely things happen and afterwards you wonder why you thought they were unlikely. Walk out of the casino when you dont understand the games being played and if you are inclined watch positions and diversify. Regarding you remark of negative correlation to stocks and bonds during globalisation. After volcker interest rates where pretty high, cutting interest rates is a rally-maker for stocks. More liquidity cheaper lending, who doesnt love that right? Create cheap(ish) debt on the balance sheet and buy back shares, stock price go up, everything is good. Yes until interest rates start to rise. Its about the rate of change, and they are rising pretty fast. Anyways cutting was always good for growth after a slump. And then after a while when things have gotten a little heated in stocks, think very lofty valuations, there are corrections. People sell their nifty stocks and dive into bonds. So the idea was you always ride it both ways since you are in a perpetual bondmarket, right? Then add leverage on both. After the GFC and EU sovereign bond crisis Central banks kind of removed market mechanisms of interest rate discovery in "risk" free assets (haha), think gov bonds. Whats happened since is that sovereigns' have maxed out their credit cards and inflation is now back in the picture. Central banks cant help anymore (nothing left to cut, and they gotta hike) and getting out another credit card on the taxpayer his/her/she/unicorn credit is not going to help this time either. Speaking gov level. But it kind of goes for everything. There are allot of mortgages, allot of corporate debt and allot of credit cards that are maxed out. More debt will just cause more of the same bad stuff, bad debt, inflation, slower growth etc. There is too much debt to deflate yet inflate further isnt an option either, too high inflation is problematic too, as much as central bankers love themselves a little inflation. Too much causes an overdose and isnt nice either. In the end its always the currencies that go. And its looking like its the end of the perpetual bond market at last. The fed is rushing in to move like jagger and Larp like Volcker, emotional and jittery, but they are forgetting that they have pushed down the kool-aid to everyone and their grandma for the last ten years and really since the 80's and things start to fall apart nicely here. Any and all collateral is melting faster then a modern gletsjer, no not really, yet, and all the FED can do is play a little with their interest rates. Its not just about the fed, its about everything. DEBT is everywhere. Its a problem and there isnt an easy way out other then a massive currency devaluation. But that is very tough too! Oh yes, and there is little to no real growth. Unless you believe robots and ai will solve all of our issues instead of creating more issues. The farewell to the old economy is also a farewell to allot of people in it. They will suffer. Rough times ahead, ahoy matey.
  • SC
    Sanjeev C.
    21 October 2022 @ 00:53
    Has anyone figured out a way to get notified by email when a comment/question I posted on gets a new reply? Thanks
    • HM
      Harry M. | Real Vision
      22 October 2022 @ 12:10
      Such a great question. If someone does figure it out could they tell me!
  • RR
    Raj R.
    13 November 2022 @ 05:11
    Waiting for the bond call.
    • HM
      Harry M. | Real Vision
      16 November 2022 @ 14:38
      Its funny you should say that